Anti-Feminists to Women: To prevent rape, just shoot men. Constructing 'rapists' vs. 'normal men' in public discourse on sexual violence

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  1. Stephan says:

    The arguments here are asinine. The reason to carry guns is, in this case, to have protection. The reason to display the weapon, is itself to discourage attack. It’s the idea that you talk quietly and carry a big stick. Women move from object status in the eyes of a predator to actor, capable of deadly retaliation. It removes force from the table for interactions with her, since it means she can only be reasoned with. If the men in question, see her armed, and still feel the need to engage in aggressive behavior against a non aggressive participant in an altercation, then society won’t miss the stupid. It’s not about shooting men, it’s about women taking personal responsibility for their safety and projecting strength. If you act like prey, predators will hunt you, and there are always predators in the shadows.

  2. Markus Gerke says:

    Two things:
    #1. Your arguments falls back into victim-blaming: According to you, preventing rape is the job of women/ survivors/ victims because they are supposedly “acting like prey” and are not taking “responsibility for their safety”. Instead of joining the conversation of what can be done to prevent men from raping, it appears you would rather talk about how women are guilty in getting raped. Not helpful, and, frankly, an example of what is wrong with public debates about rape and sexual violence.
    #2. The point is that “predators”, in most cases, are not lurking “in the shadows”. They are family members, ‘partners’, lovers, co-workers. Pretending that rape is a problem of strangers attacking helpless “prey” on the street (which) can be prevented by carrying guns is missing the point and is derailing an important conversation we need to have.

  3. Heidi Huse says:

    I don’t know if you’re still reading your comments. I’ve been studying gun rhetoric for over 10 years…can’t believe it’s still/again such a big slice of the American discourse pie. I’ve read/re-read Paxton Quigley’s pro-guns-for-self-defense-for-women book (& the update). I am not a fan of guns or the gun lobby. But here’s my struggle: the “change the society” rhetoric makes the very concrete threats against women on a daily basis too abstract. Arguments like Quigley’s keep the rhetoric concrete and practical and very present for very real women. And I haven’t yet found a gun regulation/”anti-gun” argument that adequately challenges Quigley’s point that in today’s society as it is, a woman can defend her w/ a gun better than by any other means…as much as I keep looking for such an argument! Yet I can’t buy into the argument that more guns is THE solution to America’s chronic social violence.

    I wholly support your 2 points above. Yet they still don’t offer an adequate rebuttal to Quigley’s argument for the woman who right now finds herself threatened w/ rape.

    Have you read Sharon D. Welch’s Feminist Ethic of Risk, where she argues about atomic weapons that it’s not realistic to shoot for total eradication, but to create a world and establish policies where such weapons become the very last resort and so their use becomes rare? I think about her argument relative to guns, in a violent American society, where we need to move our society to a place where the need for guns–for men and women, urban and rural, rich/middle class and poor–becomes rare. I don’t know how we create a discourse that moves us in that direction, especially when debate about guns itself is imbued w/ undertones of violence.

  4. Jamie says:

    “…arguing that rape can be prevented if men learn not to rape…”

    This seems to be predicated on the notion that ‘not raping’ is something that has to be learned, the subtle implication being that ‘raping’ is the normal state of affairs for males. The solution to which is to educate them that ‘rape is bad’. This comes off as a bit misandristic, especially in this paragraph:

    “Essentially, Maxwell argued (and feminists have done so for decades) that men don’t have to be the problem but can be part of the solution – by learning and by teaching other men and boys how to reject violence and how to treat women (and other boys and men) with respect – and by asserting that men have the ability to change.”

    Here Maxwell places the blame, not on rapists, but on men as a whole in no uncertain terms, the result of their masculinity the author assures us. It is unsettling to see that rape in this article is spoken of almost exclusively in highly gendered terms. The rapist is male and the victim is female. That many victims are male or that sometimes the perpetrators are female is rarely mentioned even as a side-note.

    It would seem to be the case that rapists know that rape is wrong but do it anyway, not dissimilar to most any other crime. Rape is often (but not always) a crime of opportunity. The perpetrators are generally those that have the opportunity to rape and lack the moral fortitude to resist sexual urges that are to the detriment of others. In fact, most rape victims are inmates in the prison system.

    While rape overall, along with all violent crime, has been in decline for the last two decades it is a serious issue. I Imagine teaching people (that’s right, people not just men) to not rape would be as effective as teaching people to not murder. While I don’t think there is a ‘magic bullet’ to prevent rape, I think the best way to combat rape is to combat those factors that contribute to crime generally: poverty, illiteracy, homelessness, etc.

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